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CB350K4 project started

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#1 ·
Last summer I bought a '72 CB350K4. I'm kind of busy with 2 jobs and doing 2 trial series, vintage and modern. So I just started to work on the CB 2 weeks ago.

The bike:



I started to disassemble:









It's a long terme winter project. I plan to get it on the road next summer.
 
#27 ·
Thanks for the information, Stou. I believe that is what I will use also. I have the same engine, same model year, that I just pulled yesterday and mounted on an engine stand. My Tsubaki chain and KA tensioner, gasket set, seal set, cam bolts, chain guide, etc. all just came in the mail today. I will be following along behind you. (I saw that your cam chain was replaced by the previous owner). My bike was running perfectly, but I could hear the cam chain getting ready to go. Like you, I found a lot of powdered metal in the filter, which had not been present in previous oil changes. I probably won't crack the engine open till tomorrow, but am curious as to what I will find.

Ray
 
#28 ·
I used the VHT flameproof on the exhaust headers of my 500T. It is holding up very well at this stage and i baked it on the motor with a couple of heating and cooling cycles. I cant wait to complete the engine teardown on my 350 and start with the cleanup


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#29 ·
Scud, I really like your Gren Assault 350, nice job!

Fxray, I didn't saw your project in the project log. Do you plan to start a thread on that project?

Drifter, I saw your current project. I subscribe to follow that, you have many work hours ahead of you to get that bike up and running!

I received my Vesrah gasket kit. That's a nice and complete kit. I decided to install new rings. So I wait for the rings before I can rebuild the engine.

 
#30 ·
Stou said:
Fxray, I didn't saw your project in the project log. Do you plan to start a thread on that project?
No, I'm just inside the engine to replace the cam chain and tensioner, measure everything for wear, have a look around, and clean/paint. That's all pretty well documented, so I won't be starting a thread on it. When it's back together, I'll put up a note that either describes how great it went or one that tells a tale of sorrow.

Best wishes with your project.

Ray
 
#32 ·
Stou, are you aware that there are two different bolts that hold the cam sprocket to the cam shaft? One is all threads and the other has a shoulder on it. They go in specific holes on the cam shaft. It is recomended that you replace those bolts after each teardown also. Just thought I'd mention it after seeing your engine gasket set.................. ;) :D
 
#35 ·
You can also verify by looking at the holes in the sprocket itself. One hole has threads out to the surface. The locating (shouldered) bolt goes into the other hole, where the threads stop below the surface of the sprocket.
 
#36 ·
Thanks guys! I always torque every bolts to the specs. I also tough about using Loctite on those bolts. You don't want to loose one of those in the engine! Thanks for the offer Glennwood55cameo, but I think I'll reuse the same bolts. I didn't saw notes in the shop manual about replacing those bolts when they are removed. Also those engine are not high performance engine, so I think there's not a big risk to reuse them. Torqued to the spec and with Loctite, that will be fine.

Nice remark Fxray!
 
#37 ·
I wouldn't take a chance reusing the bolts. Replacing them is cheap insurance. Here is a horror story of a newly rebuilt engine with reused bolts(that were loctited), shitting the bed........... http://www.hondatwins.net/forum/vie...4&t=24314&p=188686&hilit=cam+bolts&sid=da54975fb7a6e8e202013707e629321c#p188686 Several other broken cam bolt stories for your reading. http://www.hondatwins.net/forum/vie...am+shaft+sprocket+bolt"]viewtopic.php?f=44&t=4851&hilit=cam+shaft+sprocket+bolt

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#38 ·
Glennwood55cameo said:
You got it!!!! That is a very common mistake, getting the wrong bolts in the wrong holes. It ends badly. They should also be torqued and loctited. I believe the torque is 14 ft. pounds. I have NOS bolts I will sell for $15 a set if your interested.
I am in the market for a set of bolts. You will not believe it when I took my cam sprocket off both bolts were of the non shouldered variety :eek: .
 
#40 ·
Stou said:
Glennwood55cameo, you have serious arguments. I'm convinced now!

I'll take them! I'll send you a PM about that.

Drifter, they seem to be available at CMSNL.
Yes I have seen that, but they charge a ridiculous amount of money for postage :(
 
#42 ·
Thanks Burnel!

Some update on the project.

Replace the rings and honed the cylinders. Here the mess on my workbench!


I removed the valves to check them and the guides. Everything was fine, only cleaned it.


I did a leak test, everything was fine!


I ordered some sleeving from McMaster-Carr. I received it 2 days later!


Engine completely reassembled




And in the frame




Here's some parts with fresh black glossy heavy duty industrial urethane paint.


I will now proceed with the fork and swingarm. Slowly but surely!!! ;)
 
#44 ·
WOW - All I can say is beautiful ! - that's going to be one nice ride !
 
#45 ·
Thanks guys!
HerrDeacon said:
How can such a clean and beautiful engine come off such a messy workbench :lol: :lol: :lol: Just kidding, engine looks great, everything is coming together nicely.
Usualy I'm not so messy but I'm really busy these days and if I want some progress in my work on the CB, I must cut somewhere! :D

Soon I will also attack the paint on the body work.
 
#47 ·
You should be proud of your work........it looks awesome :) .
 
#48 ·
Thanks dtsmjr8dan!

A small update. I work a little bit on the back end. I did a tool to compress the shocks springs, cleaned them and install them. I will peek them for now but I will need new one when I'll really use the bike. The damping is not very good.

The tool I did with parts of a puller I have


Cleaning time!


Once installed
 
#51 ·
Thanks CB2NR! Not as elaborate as your Resto-Mod-Cafe, but I think it will be nice and clean once completed. Can't wait to see your Resto-Mod-Cafe completed. ;-)

I have an eye on a '72 CD175 near home. If I buy it, I'll probably go for a Cafe Racer style on that one. Too many projects and not enought spare time!!!