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1.7K views 13 replies 8 participants last post by  Glyn  
#1 ·
Hi,
A few weeks ago I posted a thread relating to a problem with throttle response on my CB200 when the engine got up to operating temperature. The engine ran great from cold, good idle and good throttle response from idle up to high revs then as soon as the motor warmed up the response from idle deteriorated drastically misfiring badly until it reaches the 4000 rev line then it revs freely. I decided to replace the O-Rings in the carb insulators with gaskets in case of air leaks which made no difference. Then I thought I'd solved the problem. I decided the air filters were looking a bit grubby so just as a matter of interest I ran the engine with no filters and low and behold she ran great. I refurbished the filters by removing the old paper filter and replaced it with a foam element as described on a previous thread and yes you've guessed it back to the same problem. I checked the plugs again and yet again they are a sooty black indicating an over-rich mixture.
The carbs have been cleaned several times in a sonic cleaner as have all the jets. I replaced the condenser with a new one. I have re-torqued the head bolts as the engine has had a rebuild. Points checked and timed up as described in the manual but the problem still rears it's head when she warms up.
I rode her up the local by-pass yesterday and she just hit 65mph but that was it then power seemed to fade until I was lucky to get 50 mph out of her. I'm at a total loss and my brain hurts. I don't even know how she ran before I got her as she was in a box of bits.
Many Regards,
Glyn. :mad:
 
#3 ·
Double Check your Valve Clearances, and timing.

If the valves are even just a little too tight the heat will make them leak once they expand.

Just a thought.
 
#4 ·
Hi,
I've checked the floats and they are at the correct height, and the chokes are fully open. Could the needles need dropping a groove as the engine is running very rich, perhaps the plugs are getting soaked with fuel at low revs. I'm not very well up on 4 strokes.
 
#10 ·
If your bike is running really rich when it runs ok from cold, the plugs will be caked in soot and will mask anything you can observe from then on. With aftermarket exhausts and modern petrol, my bike was rich on anything but the top most needle clip. I would try the top clip and before you do, test the floats in a jar of petrol each. If one sinks you might have solved a problem. Note the word "a", I'm still tinkering with my bike after 2 years. :) . If you can, buy or borrow a set of vacuum gauges to balance the carbs. I found I was going round in circles until I got hold of some.
 
#12 ·
I was leaning towards lowering the needles and you have just confirmed what I was thinking. I just couldn't get my head round a simple exhaust change could make such a difference. I did check the floats on one of the many carb cleaning op's I have done and they seemed ok. You are also right about the caked on soot, I think I need a chimney sweep!