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Replaced regulator/rectifier; now have zombie draw

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#1 ·
I replaced the regulator/rectifier in my 72 CB450 with the one from Common-Motor. It had instructions, which I followed. Unfortunately, I've got zombie draw on the battery now. I had battery drain a bunch, and thought it was the charging system, but I tested the rectifier and it's charging just fine. The battery is up in normal operating levels after the bike is running, so it's getting charged. It's when it was sitting that it started to have issues. I finally verified this by disconnecting the ground connection, and putting a volt meter between the ground on the battery and the ground wire, and seeing voltage, and disconnecting wires until I didn't have any draw anymore.

Long story short, I can now read draw between the CASE of the regulator/rectifier and the ground. I think that means this regulator/rectifier is bad. There seems to be a short between the 12V connection and the case (ground). Can anyone confirm this for me? There shouldn't be any connection between the 12V pole (or any of the poles) and the casing of the regulator (ground), right?
 
#2 ·
For more detail, I have about 50 kOhm resistance between the 12V pole and the case of the rectifier/regulator, where I would expect infinite resistance. It's enough resistance that a continuity test fails, but clearly there's voltage going through there, and I think that's bad. Just need someone to confirm.

Note: I understand the basics of electronics, and what this little solid state device supposed to be doing at an academic level, but maybe this is working as designed and I need to find another reason for the power drain.
 
#4 ·
clip a test light between the battery terminal and the battery cable, as you did with the voltmeter. Turn the lights out in the garage. If you see any light whatsoever, you have a drain. In a bone stock bike, only the rectifier has access to the direct battery current , all else is switched through the key. If the bike is bone stock, and you see a light, the rectifier is either wired improperly or has a bad diode
 
#5 · (Edited)
How many wires connect to the regulator? Assuming it includes the rectifier, I count two for the stator, one ground, and one output to the battery. Any more?

As was stated, 50kOhms will take a long time to run a battery down, and, since it has a measurement circuit inside, there has to be some leakage through the regulator.But, if you have a fifth wire for voltage monitoring, it is best to connect that to the key switch output, so you have no leakage at all.

It occurs to me that you should set your meter to current, and measure the current through the regulator to ground. Then, ground the regulator, disconnect the battery negative and measure the current from that cable to the negative terminal. They should be the same, and very small, but start with a higher setting on the meter first.