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My Nighthawk 450 rebuild

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#1 · (Edited)
Hi everyone! I've been reading this forum for a couple of years now and finally decided to sign up now that I started working on my Nighthawk 450 again.

I bought the bike (my first) in the summer of 2013 from a guy who lived down the street for 180 euros (about $200) it started and ran, but other than that it was a total mess - flat rear tire, messy wiring, dangerous fuel lines - and the previous owner tried making a bobber of some sort out of it by stripping the rear cowl, side panels and fixing some cheap ass ghetto style seat using fence mesh, wood and leather he cut from (I suppose) his old couch.

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The Nighthawk in all it's glory. Mind you, this was AFTER I replaced both tyres, fuel lines and fixed the indicator lights. Also I made up a slightly better version of the buddy seat using aluminum sheet.

During the winter I decided to turn it into a cafe racer, but it just wasn't the bike for it. I just put on some clip ons and rode about 2500 miles on it but it wasn't really good looking. Also not very comfortable because of the standard pegs (I couldn't mount rear sets).

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In the summer of 2015 I bought a proper bike - a 2006 Ducati Monster 695 - and decided to turn the Nighthawk into a bobber, a style that fits the frame and tank. I began by completely stripping the bike so I could modify the frame. However, after taking the whole bike apart last year I didn't spend a lot of time on the project, mostly because I was not looking forward to modifying the whole frame.

A few weeks ago I decided to pick up the project again by restoring the Nighthawk to it's (sort of) original state, just with some modifications such as different handlebars, indicators, mirrors, just to make it a bit more sporty and modern. The idea is to make a road trip next year with it, so maybe I'lll add some engine guards with highway pegs (if I can find them), luggage rack and hand guards.

Last week I bought all the parts that were missing from the rear side of the bike, being the metal and plastic fender, rear light, chain cover, rear cowl and a bunch of mounting screws, rubbers and springs. For now I'm just reassembling the bike completely so I can see what parts are missing or need to be replaced or upgraded. First I mounted the rear side:

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I also have a nice digital Koso dashboard with speed, revs, temperature, clock and battery indication that I have been using on the bike since the 'cafe racer' stadium and I'm planning to use it again. However to mount the dashboard close to the handlebars, I had to relocate the ignition switch. It ended up underneath the tank at the right hand side. I made an aluminum bracket for it and mounted it to the bracket the connects the engine to the frame.

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I had to mount the engine and carburators first, to see if there was any space for the igntion switch.

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Ignition switch mounted

As for now I'm just planning to build the bike to see if everything fits, then completely disassemble the bike again and paint the frame and other parts that need freshening up. I will also be ordering new parts such as a chain and sprockets, steel braided brake line, new bolts, gaskets here and there and what not.

Getting parts for this bike is not really easy in the Netherlands because the bike was never officially sold here, so all the Nighthawk 450's are imported from the US and Canada. The guy I bought the rear parts from told me there were only a 140 of them actually on the road in the Netherlands. Luckily I have most of the important parts now. I'll be probably ordering additional stufffrom David Silver from the UK and from CMSNL, a Dutch company specialized in Japanese OEM parts. They're expensive but they have all the little bolts, dust covers, gaskets, you name it.

Looking forward to get this bike riding again!
 
#27 · (Edited)
Thanks Jim. I popped off the valve cover again and checked the valve clearance, seems to be OK but I noticed the valve adjusters don't look the way the ought to be:

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They all look more or less like this. I guess I'll have to replace those. Could this be the cause of the noise? By the way: yesterday I adjusted the balancer chain which seemed to improve somewhat on the noise, however I might need to move the balancer bracket (?) a notch to allow for more adjustment.
 
#29 · (Edited)
Alright, I'll order new ones from CMSNL. I hope that will fix most of the valve noise.

Meanwhile I've found a solution to mount the rear blinkers. I wanted to use smaller, universal blinkers instead of the originals. I needed a way to mount them though. The easiest solution would be just drilling a hole in the plastic rear cowl, but it would look a lot better if they could fit on the original position on the grip bars.

To do this I took the original rear blinkers, and take off the lamp parts:

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Then I sawed off the part that sticks out of the grip bar:

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After that I used a drill and then a tap to make an M8 thread to fit the universal blinkers:

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Installed on the bike:

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Looks pretty good I might say!
 
#31 · (Edited)
New update, the front brake is finally done. I repaired the leaky master cylinder with a new piston and seals, replaced pistons and seals in the caliper and put a steel braided brake line on.

Finding the right brake pistons is tedious, the original Honda pistons aren't made anymore for the 1982 through 1985 Nighthawks. I ended up buying generic pistons that are slightly shorter (29 mm instead of 31.5 mm) but I reckon this won't be a problem. Of course, the diameter is the same. If you plan on buying new pistons for your Nighthawk, be aware that the diameter is actually 30.2 mm even though the caliper says '30'.

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Installed:

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Also resprayed the master cylinder.

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Bleeding the brakes was a real PITA this time, next time I will definetely buy a large syringe and use the reverse bleed method, it took me a whole afternoon. I have good pressure now but there are still small air bubbles coming from the master cylinder hole. I guess this problem will fix itself in time...

It won't take long before I can get the bike on the road again. I'm still waiting for some large bolts and nuts to mount the headlight. And I also need two M12x1.25 bolts to mount the rear blinkers... very hard to come by, CMSNL doesn't have them either.
 
#32 · (Edited)
Well last week the nuts 'n bolts arrived so I could make the bike roadworthy! Installed the rear blinkers, installed the headlight and took the bike for a ride! Apart from all the things that still need to be done, it runs fine. It's very easy to ride and manouvre, especially at low speeds. I didn't remember it rides so well!

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Yesterday I went for a second ride, and after starting the oil pressure warning light was on (however dimly)... checked oil level which was really low, so added oil. Problem persisted. Because the light was dimly lit while running, and bright/normal with the engine off, I suspected the oil pressure switch. Took it off and checked, seemed to be working OK. Put it back in, noticed that the wire going to the oil switch was getting bad so that needs to be fixed. Reconnected the wire and then the problem was gone.

The bike is still running very lean, especially the left cylinder. The left header is turning blueish:

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Right side:

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I've pulled the plugs and they are very white, so obviously too lean:

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Now, I've already increased the jets from 125 (stock) to 130 because of the factory leanness plus the somewhat more open mufflers. The new headers from DSS are single wall, whereas the original ones are double walled. I guess the after market ones will get hotter on the outside 'cause they're single walled of course (and probably made with thinner steel), but they also make the bike run leaner because they allow more air to flow through, right? I'm thinking about going up to 132.5 or 137.5 for starters (unfortunately I don't have 135 jets lying around).

Update
Changed the jets to 137.5 and rode around for 15 minutes. Just checked the plugs and they're still white as a lilly? I had the feeling the bike had a bit more power though. Should I increase the jets even more or check for problems? I'll try and get a hold of some tools to check compression and carb balance soon, too.
 
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