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I've been curious for awhile. Do 12 digit VIN #'s only indicate [model - Series/production number] on a cb350?
or are there a few numbers in there that say the color it came with? I always assumed it wasn't like a car's fender tag where you could "decode" the original options, but realized I'm not 100% on that...
 

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The only thing that VIN will tell you is the model and what number it came off the line.
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Thanks dude! That's what I kinda figured. It would be fun to get to do what the muscle car guys do and restore it exactly how it came out of the dealer. It even would be cool to find out which dealer it was bought at and get the dealership's license plate frame and everything...
 

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It even would be cool to find out which dealer it was bought at and get the dealership's license plate frame and everything...
That would be cool. These things were sold so long ago and pretty much all those dealers are gone now, and Honda didn't share nearly as much info with the public and Detroit did with respect to all the component info, so it's almost impossible to do that unfortunately... but you could do a little research with the PO if they knew anything and might get a little lucky, then just fake the rest if you knew a dealer name from the area where it might have been sold originally... like for me, one of the 5 different Honda dealers that were in Tampa over the period of a couple decades back in the late '60s to late '70s (easy for me to remember, I worked for all of them at one time or another over that period :D ). My buddy took a small bike (Cub, IIRC) to Barber last year to sell and it was originally from our area

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That would be cool. These things were sold so long ago and pretty much all those dealers are gone now, and Honda didn't share nearly as much info with the public and Detroit did with respect to all the component info, so it's almost impossible to do that unfortunately... but you could do a little research with the PO if they knew anything and might get a little lucky, then just fake the rest if you knew a dealer name from the area where it might have been sold originally... like for me, one of the 5 different Honda dealers that were in Tampa over the period of a couple decades back in the late '60s to late '70s (easy for me to remember, I worked for all of them at one time or another over that period :D ). My buddy took a small bike (Cub, IIRC) to Barber last year to sell and it was originally from our area

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Well, on one of my bikes I think I might be able to ask. Might be worth a shot! I'll have to rake through the emails. I think I'm one of few owners of it; same lady had it her whole adult life, I believe, until it 24xxx then it became mine. Pretty cool work history you got there! I love those old dealer decals, they're neat.

You safe from the storm action where you're at?
 

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Yeah, this one is heading northwest of us. Poor Louisiana is already near flood stage and now this is heading their way... fortunately it (probably) won't be a hurricane when it gets there, but they're at the point where a few spilled drinks in the street would be practically all it takes to breach a levee. Hey, my "tours" through the dealership service departments were short each time, a year or less - I was a kid, after all, and though I did quality work and had few comebacks, they all wanted speed and that's never been me - but it was a great learning experience and I knew a lot of people in the business for a long time as a result, which helped both me and my Dad for a couple decades. The best thing to come out of it (beyond all the stuff I learned) was knowing the owner of Honda Village in North Tampa who eventually closed the franchise after 10 years (never knew why) and he and a partner bought a huge salvage yard that my Dad did a ton of paint work and frame/fork tube straightening for... for about 5 years, I had first dibs on any choice total wreck the guy got, by way of my Dad. That's how I got my first CBX in trade for a '78 CB750K8 turned F (changed tank and seat, added a Kerker 4-1) that I had $800 in plus $400 cash - with 4000 miles on it. Best totaled bike I ever owned

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for this (obviously repaired/finished, no before pictures in those film only days)
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That is a hell of a deal! That exhaust and crash bar really complete the look of the bike. I always thought the 750f's were underrated classics, aesthetically. +1 for having a cool dad that's a motor head. The advantages are endless...
 

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Well, had a gearhead Dad... he passed at almost 88 in February of 2016. And yes, the advantages were tremendous - anything I wanted painted, regardless how I wanted it, he always did for me. Sometimes, like the 750K turned F, I'd just hand the stuff to him and say "just do something cool" - done. He was a master at paint and body, flawless work that always looked as good as factory. Never got to see my 450 build. Yeah, I always liked the SOHC 750s through that period too, but if I could have just one of my previous bikes back, it would be the CBX - either one, my first or second (but the second one was better set up, with the factory GP bars and cables and yet another set of Denco 6-6)

in the mountains northeast of Atlanta, ex-wife and I rode up there to visit a friend
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second CBX (1980) as bought for $2000 in '90
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after GP bars, Dencos
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and the first CBX on the now-congested road in front of the salvage yard in '81 (gone now, of course)
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and yeah, it's me - the only copy of the picture is hanging in my hallway
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Well, had a gearhead Dad... he passed at almost 88 in February of 2016. And yes, the advanges were tremendous - anything I wanted painted, regardless how I wanted it, he always did for me. Sometimes, like the 750K turned F, I'd just hand the stuff to him and say "just do something cool" - done. He was a master at paint and body, flawless work that always looked as good as factory. Never got to see my 450 build. Yeah, I always liked the SOHC 750s through that period too, but if I could have just one of my previous bikes back, it would be the CBX - either one, my first or second (but the second one was better set up, with the factory GP bars and cables and yet another set of Denco 6-6)
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm glad you guys had your fun together!
I can relate some on having a paint wiz for a dad. My old man loves the body work. That 6-6 musta cooked....Nice pics!
 

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I'm sorry to hear that. I'm glad you guys had your fun together!
I can relate some on having a paint wiz for a dad. My old man loves the body work. That 6-6 musta cooked....Nice pics!
We did have a lot of fun, both on projects and riding together when he was younger. We rode to Bike Week together on our 450s when I was a junior in high school (I had to talk him into it, he had no idea what it was all about). He raved for months after that about how many bikes were in one place at one time. The silver CBX ran 11.86 in the quarter at Bradenton drag strip with the baffles out - a half second quicker by just pulling the baffles, no rejet. Glad you have your Dad to lean on for body work, it's another talent that is slowly becoming lost in our "progress".

There's more of his paintwork in my only photo album here
 

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We did have a lot of fun, both on projects and riding together when he was younger. We rode to Bike Week together on our 450s when I was a junior in high school (I had to talk him into it, he had no idea what it was all about). He raved for months after that about how many bikes were in one place at one time. The silver CBX ran 11.86 in the quarter at Bradenton drag strip with the baffles out - a half second quicker by just pulling the baffles, no rejet. Glad you have your Dad to lean on for body work, it's another talent that is slowly becoming lost in our "progress".

There's more of his paintwork in my only photo album here
I'll have to check it out. Like a lot of people on here, I love photos! Thanks for sharing, its awesome to see people's experiences with their bikes captured on film. And 11s aint no joke!
I am indeed lucky. He's going to teach me what he knows over time, so for that I am grateful. Hopefully one day I can pass on what I know too.

As a side note... I think I know what you mean "progress". There's a good book on the disappearance of technical mastery and the trades Shop Class as Soul Craft by Matthew Crawford. Might be worth a read. I found this book the same time I did my first 350 rebuild. Almost dropped out of college to pursue mechanics...still kinda wished I would have haha
 

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For early model Hondas, the color code for any painted part is indicated by the last three numbers of the part number. You will need an OEM Honda Parts Manual or a friend behind the parts counter at your local Honda dealer to cross reference this code. It may be three numbers, three letters or a combination of the two. Hope this helps.
 

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For early model Hondas, the color code for any painted part is indicated by the last three numbers of the part number. You will need an OEM Honda Parts Manual or a friend behind the parts counter at your local Honda dealer to cross reference this code. It may be three numbers, three letters or a combination of the two. Hope this helps.
Courtney, that is some straight dope. Thanks for the response! Helpful info, I never knew that..
 

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However, that doesn't mean the code from the Honda part number is going to correlate to a paint color by an American paint manufacturer... they weren't doing that then and may not be now. For the longest time, my Dad used a handful of the little factory touch-up cans of candy coat color from the dealer over an automotive silver base coat to achieve his factory replica paint jobs
 
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