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This is interesting, and something new on me.

I got a brand new valve to replace the one that was bent in my 450.
The engine had never been run (since re-building), and a good machine shop had cut new valve seats for me.
Before I took the head with the new valve back to the shop to have it lapped in, I decided to test it, almost as an afterthought.

Wow - it sealed perfectly, didn't leak at all !!! No lapping even required.

Now that's never happened to me before, in all my years of messing with these bikes.
I guess it's the secret to easy valve jobs, just get brand new valves, huh?? (Nice thought).
 

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wow, almost too good to be true. I think I would almost talk myself into lapping them just cause that's what your supposed to do.

It would drive me crazy if anything went wrong on the first run. Always running through the back of my head.
"did that valve really seal?"


,Dustin
 

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dustinlwood said:
wow, almost too good to be true.
,Dustin

Heh, heh - that's exactly what I thought.

The reason for the bent valve was covered in other posts.
But there's no doubt that it (the new valve) seals now - if acetone won't leak around it, then it seals for sure.

So tomorrow, I'll throw it all back together and try to get it in the frame. Only takes a couple minutes to put a 450 top end together and time the cams up, if you're experienced. There will be a section in my much-anticipated Annotated 450 Manual concerning it. Honda actually made it easier for you to do alone by setting it to time up NOT on compression stroke - so the crank will actually sort of stay in place rather then trying to "run by" like all the 180 degree engines do on compression. So instead of needing 6 hands to do it, you only need 4. :roll: :roll:

Wednesday morning, I see the doctors again and they'll schedule the surgery, probably before the weekend.
So I need to get as much done as I can quickly, at least all the grunt work possible.
 

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Bill,

What did the doctors say?

Eric
Bummer - this one was a general surgeon who specializes in hernias.
He said the x-rays and CT revealed a small hernia (probably from doing my roof alone this summer), but didn't think it was big enough to cripple me up like this or warrant surgery.

This was after the orthopedic surgeon made me spend an hour & 15 minutes in an MRI "tube" (completely motionless - I defy anyone to try that) - he decided there was nothing he could do either. Just a small amount of arthritis in the hip, that he considered normal for someone "as old as me". ([email protected]#$%)
No evidence of cancer or anything like that. He gave me a copy of the MRI on cd, which is viewable on my computer - that's pretty cool, and incidentally proof that I do indeed have testicles (want me to post??). Despite what Wifey may sometimes claim.

So now they want me to see a neurologist next week to check for nerve damage.

I'm getting fed up with doctors, all they do is take my money and give me powerful addictive pain killers - I'm sick of them too, I absolutely HATE taking pills of any kind..

So I don't know - maybe I'll just have to learn to be a cripple.

On the bright side, I got the fender bolts from Steve today (he saved me again), and disassembled one carb and have it soaking now.
The engine is in the frame, took all of 15 minutes to put in the valve and time up the cams. Had to make the two big engine bolts from a piece of threaded metric rod I got at the hardware store - the old ones were trashed and NLA (naturally).
So the 450 is getting close now.
And the Annotated 450 Manual is nearly finished - the only thing missing is a decent photo of a CL450 K2.

bill
 

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Bill, Sorry to hear about the (lack-of) a favorable diagnosis...... I HAD a hernia from lifting a DOHC 750 engine (by myself..5'7" and all of 165 lbs.)....I had it repaired, and the mesh insert bothers me as much as the hernia did.... (Not the sharp pain, but a tender and uncomfortable "pinch" feeling at the most inopportune times)......You are better off with a "grin and bear it" situation......
Remember, they call it "practicing" medicine....They have to "practice" 'cause they don't quite have it perfect yet.......
Also sorry I did not have any nicer bolts to send....Those almost weren't worth mailing, but better than none......LOL.... Steve
 

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Hey Bill. I'm sorry to hear about your recent round of medical problems. I hope everything works out well for you soon! In the meantime, take it easy man!!

On a side note, how could I tell a 450 K2 from other models? I've saved just about every picture of CB and CL 450's I've ever found. I may just have a good picture for your manual (that I can't wait to buy and put to good use!)...?

GB :mrgreen:
 

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The CL K2 looks just like a CL K1, except the tank has a "Honda" emblem (the actual word "Honda") on it, rather than the Winged emblem - plain solid color tank, no stripes or anything..
And the side cover emblem on the K2 is the CB K2/K3 triangular type.
 

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Hey Bill, PM me with your email address so I can send you a picture. I may have what you need? It looks to be a vintage picture of the CL, with Honda on the tank, but stripe up high? I'm still going through all of them as I type.

GB :mrgreen:
 

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Bill,

I'm sorry to hear the doctor couldn't put a name to what's wrong. It is frustrating. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers, maybe the neurologist will know what it is.

I am happy to here the 450 is coming along. I can't wait to see/hear that bike as you do good work.

Eric
 
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