RUNNING WITHOUT THE ROTOR/STATOR

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WOZERD

Discussion Starter · Dec 19, 2008

IF and When I decide to race my CB450, I intend to run a total loss system. I have been told that simply removing the rotor and stator will allow the left case to flood with oil and starve the engine of lubrication. I can't find anything on it.
I was going to call a few builders but thought I would ask here first. I have looked. I see drain back holes cast into the lower case. I can see no reason why, as I have been told, I have to split the cases and send them out for a lip to be machined into the cases where the left side of the crank comes through so a seal can be fitted.

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tbpmusic

· #2 · Dec 19, 2008

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Dumb question, maybe - how 'ya gonna set the timing and valves (with no marks)??

I guess maybe you could use a dial indicator or something, like we used to do on the old ring-dingers. Would take a lot of trial and error to figure it out, though.

Or maybe put the rotor back on for tuning, then remove it (every time)??

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66Sprint

· #3 · Dec 19, 2008

Some do use a "seal plate" on the f-160 racers, but they are used to reduce the volume of the oil that CAN get into that area, and provide additional sealing (in the event of a left-side crash), and/or a means to add more cooling surfaces (the cut-off starter boss area essentially becomes a cooling scoop)...... NO case machining is required...If further explaination of the ease with which this can be accomplished is necessary, please contact me by e-mail ...... [email protected] ....Steve

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WOZERD

Discussion Starter · #4 · Dec 19, 2008

66Sprint said:
Some do use a "seal plate" on the f-160 racers, but they are used to reduce the volume of the oil that CAN get into that area, and provide additional sealing (in the event of a left-side crash), and/or a means to add more cooling surfaces (the cut-off starter boss area essentially becomes a cooling scoop)...... NO case machining is required...If further explaination of the ease with which this can be accomplished is necessary, please contact me by e-mail ...... [email protected] ....Steve

Steve, Thanks-- expect an e-mail from me IF/When I find out AHRMA will let me race (within the next 90 days).

And Bill, yes, you woull have to re-install the rotor at least or, make up a replacement such as a degree wheel marked with the "points of interest" (so to speak). Going to a pointless ignition system will eliminate some of that.

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donny662

· #5 · Jan 3, 2009

WOZERD said:
66Sprint said:

Going to a pointless ignition system will eliminate some of that.

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I would think a pointless ignition system would only be acceptable on a non-running bike. I mean, it's pointless to have an ignition system if the bike doesn't run anyway.

:lol:

Thank you! I'm here all night.

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Henryinva

· #6 · Jan 3, 2009

donny662 said:
WOZERD said:

66Sprint said:

Going to a pointless ignition system will eliminate some of that.

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I would think a pointless ignition system would only be acceptable on a non-running bike. I mean, it's pointless to have an ignition system if the bike doesn't run anyway.

:lol:

Thank you! I'm here all night.

So whats your POINT Donny......

couldn't resist

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crazypj

· #7 · Jan 3, 2009

donny662 said:
WOZERD said:

66Sprint said:

Going to a pointless ignition system will eliminate some of that.

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I would think a pointless ignition system would only be acceptable on a non-running bike. I mean, it's pointless to have an ignition system if the bike doesn't run anyway.

:lol:

Thank you! I'm here all night.

Except that's what Suzuki call electronic, PEI=pointless electronic ignition
You need to fit an oil seal in the block off plate and use longer screws by the thickness of the plate, that way you avoind case machining
PJ

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