[WoundedCyborg]

i tried to browse youtube but all those tutorials seem to have the stator right in the inside of the engine cover.

I tried unscrewing this bolt but the whole "flywheel?" rotates with it.

I know i need to put a specialty honda puller in that slot at some point in the process but i thought i had to get this bolt out in order to do so.

Also are there any other supplies I'll need?

Right now all i know is ill need a honda puller and gasket sealant.

 

[Old Putz]

The flywheel is pressed onto the end of the shaft. Once you remove the bolt, the flywheel is still stuck to the end of the shaft. The pulling tool is nothing more than a big-ass bolt that threads into the flywheel. As you screw the bolt into the flywheel, the bolt presses against the end of the crankshaft and pulls the flywheel off.

 

[dtsmjr8dan]

20 mm x 1.5 pitch bolt.

 

[J-T]

You can stop the flywheel from turning by putting the bike in gear and having someone hold the brake. Same for tightening when you put it back on.

Why are you removing it?

 

[WoundedCyborg]

You can stop the flywheel from turning by putting the bike in gear and having someone hold the brake. Same for tightening when you put it back on.

Why are you removing it?

No spark situation was traced back to stator failure. Wish there were step by step visuals out there. Might make my own guide after I accomplish this because without a doubt I'll have a lot more questions for this process lol

I'm guessing the bike has to be on or something for that brake trick? I slid the kickstart back on and put it into first and held the brake but the flywheel still turned with the bolt rotation.

Any other tips for stabilizing it?

 

[WoundedCyborg]

20 mm x 1.5 pitch bolt.

Thanks Dan maybe I can pick that up local

 

[dtsmjr8dan]

Put a rod in one of the two holes, put your socket wrench on the bolt, and another bar between the two touching the ground. (%)
That bolt is on tight as well. I think about 75 foot pounds.

 

[MDM]

I'm guessing the bike has to on or something for that brake trick? I slid the kickstart back on and put it into first and held the brake but the flywheel still turned with the bolt rotation.

Why first gear? You're not trying to turn the wheels, lol. (HINT: Ever notice that it's easy to take off in first gear, but if you accidentally try to take off in, say, third, you generally stall the engine?)

Any you could probably accomplish the same thing as having someone hold the brake by placing it right up against a wall - but I'd go with the helper and the brake(s), or both. That way, you've at least got a helper there and another set of hands - and eyes - can often be useful when working on things.

Regards,

 

[WoundedCyborg]

Dan-I think Im imagining what youre saying- or atleast a variation of it.
What does "(%)" refer too?

Is there another term for "pinch bolt"?Not exactly coming up with anything helpful under that search online.
Plus I tried Ace hardware on my way home and they scratched their head at the term :-? I dont know what it is about pittsburgh hardware stores


MDM- Was just thinking about what JT said about putting it in gear lol. My model only has two gears but I catch your drift :lol:

 

[J-T]

Sorry, spaced out the part about it being an auto!

 

[MDM]

Oh, wait... You have the semi-automatic model. Hmm... IDK enough about those setups to even guess. You have a torque converter, too, methinks. Yeah, you'll probably have to do it the "mechanic's" way and make use of one of the holes in the part. If you have an impact wrench, that would (most likely) help. If you don't... Sometimes you can show up at a garage that isn't all that busy and offer a guy five bucks to remove a bolt if that's all he has to do. I used to say, "Just stop by any garage and ask someone," but I gather not everyone is as helpful as in times past. Still, you can probably find someone (since it takes seconds) if you can't get it off manually.

BtW, dtsmjr8dan didn't state that it was a "pinch" bolt, he stated that it was a 20 mm x 1.5 pitch bolt. IOW, he just gave you the size and thread pitch. Any place that sells metric bolts ought to have lots of them.

Regards,

 

[longdistancerider]

Put a rod in one of the two holes, put your socket wrench on the bolt, and another bar between the two touching the ground. (%)
That bolt is on tight as well. I think about 75 foot pounds.

The female end of a 3/8" extension is a nice fit for this, just don't insert it far enough to hit the stator in case the rotor moves.

 

[WoundedCyborg]

BtW, dtsmjr8dan didn't state that it was a "pinch" bolt, he stated that it was a 20 mm x 1.5 pitch bolt. IOW, he just gave you the size and thread pitch. Any place that sells metric bolts ought to have lots of them.

Regards,

seems like we're all full of brain farts :lol:



No prob JT lol. Found this thread helpful in case someones going through the same thing I am (at least for this step)

http://www.hondatwins.net/forums/62...do-i-keep-flywheel-moving-replace-stator.html

I've seen Jim link the puller from motionpro website. Part was $11.50 +shipping (making it $18 total for me)

Found out when browsing online searching for " M20X1.5 " gives the best results

I found the bolt on amazon for less than a dollar more and got free 2 day shipping since I have prime
http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08...21372&sr=8-1&keywords=flywheel+puller+M20x1.5

 

[MDM]

I found the bolt on amazon for less than a dollar more and got free 2 day shipping since I have prime

I'd have probably just walked into Fastenal at 608 Foreland St. there in Pittsburgh on Monday morning and bought one. But whatever works.

Regards,

 

[WoundedCyborg]

I'd have probably just walked into Fastenal at 608 Foreland St. there in Pittsburgh on Monday morning and bought one. But whatever works.

Regards,

If I had a running bike I probably would've done that :lol:
You're familiar with my area? Awesome

 

[MDM]

If I had a running bike I probably would've done that :lol:

Ah, okay. I see that I am not the only person who's entire inventory of vehicles totals one motorcycle that isn't (for whatever reason) able to be ridden on the roads. You have my sympathies, lol.

You're familiar with my area? Awesome

No. I have only visited your city three times - once with my mother for a day trip and twice on school trips (it was during one of those that I learned that I occasionally have a strong urge to jump from high locations onto hard surfaces, but I have (obviously - I'm still here) resisted it to this day) - and all of them were 25+ years ago.

But I am familiar with the Internet.

Regards,

 

[WoundedCyborg]

Ok so im hoping the stator comes in tmmro mid day so i can work on the bike tmmro night. In the meantime im brainstorming any questions that may come up.

Where the stator plug leads into the engine right here:

That rubber seal holding the wire snug in the engine case...how would i get that out without damaging it? Just pry and be as gentile as possible? If this seal does damaged, whats an alternative to create this seal?

 

[dtsmjr8dan]

Worry not about that rubber 'seal' for the harness. The left cover will come off without disturbing it. That % sign I used in a previous post was to give you a visual of a bar between the hole in the stator for one bar and the hole in the center for the wrench to create a wedge effect to get that bolt off.

 

[GreenMM]

I had to remove a 600+ lb torqued crank pulley bolt of my Acura Integra (not kidding, the factory idiot robots way over tighten them, it's sort of a well know f up).
Was kind of like some posters said here. And I tried everything, WD soak for days, hitting it with a hammer to break seal, Impact gun, heating it with a torch etc etc...
What finally did it, was, 3 people, putting the 5speed manual in 5th gear, person 1 stomping on brake. person 2 (me) holding the ratchet setup with extension and a 3 foot cheater bar squarely on the nut, person 3 (bodybuilder) could not break it but then used his legs scissors style on the cheater bar while hugging the frame of the car (was jacked 3 feet in the air). That finally got that little bitch out of there.
I do by the way only have one mode of transport here, my moto, so when repairing and it's down - well, I feel your pain.

So on to your problem.
the % symbol means to place a bolt in one of those holes, and the line in the symbol means put a bar that goes between the bolt and the ratchet / socket. Sounds like a very clever idea. in the % one • is the bolt one • is the ratchet head and the / line is the bar.
Then you can torque one of the elements using one of the other elements as a brace to pull against, and the other on to prevent there crank from spinning. Brilliant idea. I was wondering if those holes could be used somehow to your advantage and I like what he posted.

When I removed parts of my CB here and also removed my stator in my Kawasaki, the case cover comes off, yes? And then that rubber parts slides out allowing the wire to come out. My CB 400A area was dry (no oil) but my Kawasaki ZX6 stator cover area is wet (oil is in there and supposed to be). So for the Kwawk, you use a smear of Permatex gasket sealer on the faces of the rubber to make it sealed. The rubber compresses a lot and on the Kawi it's not high oil pressure or much oil in there, and it's been fine for 1.5 years and 7000 miles.
The CB400A should be even more mellow as I think that's mostly a dust / grime seal, I don't think any oil circulates behind there.

 

[MDM]

I had to remove a 600+ lb torqued crank pulley bolt of my Acura Integra

I bet that was fun . It reminds me of the time my buddy tried to replace a steering component on the 2005 F250 SuperDuty turbodiesel that he bought used (and abused). He couldn't break the bolt loose with a 4' cheater pipe and an entire day's worth of anger - and he can pick my motorcycle up, lol. Neither could his cordless electric impact water-pistol or the air impact gun at his brother's glass shop. Not wanting to admit defeat (and needing to drive an hour and a half north to go to work that night), he and I jumped into one of his brother's shop vehicles and drove around looking for garages. It was a holiday weekend, so pickings were slim... Then, in the next town south, we stopped at a gas station / heavy truck (as in, Class D semi) garage. The only person on the garage side of the business was (what appeared to be) a 17-year old kid installing a stereo in his car. My buddy asked if he'd take a stab at it. "Uh... I'm not allowed to mess with the truck tools. I'm not really supposed to even be here." My friend explained that he'd tried all morning to remove the bolt, then driven all over three towns and was about to miss work at his new job. The kid said he'd try. He wandered around for a bit and came up with the heaviest-duty impact gun I had ever seen, hooked it to an air line, turned the compressor on, waited for the tank to fill... and buzzed the bolt right out.

If you try and try and TRY without success... Look for a place that repairs 80,000-pound gross weight vehicles, lol.

Oh yeah, he gave the kid $20 (it might have been $50 :lol: ).

Regards,