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Nothing lasts forever and I hope Pete is well. I'm a fan of the Pamco ignition. I always admired his ability to take a home boy developed ignition system and turn it into a product. My 450 runs great with his system and it has over 2,000 miles on it now. I did find a nice looking DOHC points plate and mechanical advancer on ebay and bought it today. I'm not excited about fiddling around with points, but it will be comforting to know I have a backup. If anyone wants to dump a CB450 PAMCO unit working or not please send me a PM. I will pay a fair price.
 

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WayBackMachine keeps cached pages of a lot of sites and here is a link to a snapshot of the site from December 31, 2018 that still has the 350 instructions. Would be good idea to save these to your computer while this site still has them cached.

Instructions for Original Unit - https://web.archive.org/web/20181009045634/http://www.cb450ignition.com/Installation350.htm
Instructions for Unit with e-Advancer: https://web.archive.org/web/20181009033546/http://www.cb450ignition.com/Installation3500.htm
CB350 Page - https://web.archive.org/web/20181008150605/http://www.cb450ignition.com/Index350.htm
 

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Was curious, did a little surfing... is Pamco the only e-advance EI out there??? I know Boyer, sparx, and Trispark make them for triumph/BSA/Edenfeild..
I see Charlie's Place, Dyna, Shockwave, and a couple more for Honda 450s.. but from what I can see they all utilize the factory advance. I swear I thought I either read or saw Boyer made one for Hondas .. gonna have to do more digging..
 

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I've got a old Boyer SOMEWHERE in the garage... let me do a little playing around.. I will need some spacific motor info from you guys if u don't mind..
 

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It's a shame Pete is done and without much fanfare. I have had a good experience with my unit so far. I work with electronics and have friends/coworkers who do very complex multilayer board design and chip programming so maybe we could attempt product support? If Pete would be willing to give up schematics and such, I'd be fine to try repair work (or even print and populate new boards).
 

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Can't disagree with you there with respect to Pete being done and going away silently... for the angst that his lack of communication caused, it overshadowed the development and distribution of what was obviously a decent product at the time as so many here have had good luck with the earlier units. It's sad that things went the way they did later on, but it was partly due to his lack of good communication in the end - whether avoidable or not. If he planned to get out of it (for whatever reason, whether it be simply retiring or due to health concerns), he should have let people know by way of the website or had someone do it for him... wouldn't have left so many wondering and some in a lurch, so to speak, with units that quit and with no recourse if still under warranty.
 

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I saw on the xs650 forum that some folks had even ordered a unit, only to be refunded. I never knew how big his operation was, but it seemed like he needed somebody to be a PR rep for him and perhaps have a small technical support center of fellow motorcyclists that could have been in on the ground floor to help with support. I get not wanting to let possible trade secrets out but I'm sure there are plenty of guys who would be (or would have been) willing to help other riders tech the equipment if the information was just available. That's what our community is about, right? If it was just him, building, shipping and supporting everything (several models for different bikes across several websites), I can get why he maybe got frustrated or just burnt out.
 

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Couldn't agree more, and your point is a valid one... yep, it IS what we do here and to an extent, at other sites like this one (though not nearly as well or as friendly as here in many cases)
 

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I saw on the xs650 forum that some folks had even ordered a unit, only to be refunded. I never knew how big his operation was, but it seemed like he needed somebody to be a PR rep for him and perhaps have a small technical support center of fellow motorcyclists that could have been in on the ground floor to help with support. I get not wanting to let possible trade secrets out but I'm sure there are plenty of guys who would be (or would have been) willing to help other riders tech the equipment if the information was just available. That's what our community is about, right? If it was just him, building, shipping and supporting everything (several models for different bikes across several websites), I can get why he maybe got frustrated or just burnt out.
Pete did come to this forum starting with the 350. People on this forum participated in development and he was very active helping people and providing warranty support. After the 350/360/450 products got going he started working on other sites to develop products for the SOHC4 and XS650. While he got involved in those projects some of the inexperienced people on this site bought his product and put them on bikes that didn't fix the problems that previously existed on their bikes. Some got very nasty if Pete didn't respond immediately. Didn't matter if it was right in the middle of the riding season and the customer was wrong. In the end his success was his down fall. We need to keep in mind how important it is to take responsibility for our actions and be respectful in dealing with others.
 

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I believe a LOT of issues could have been handled up front and EASY...
First.. BEFORE a unit should have been sold a simple checklist should have been "signed off on"..
1-This unit will NOT fix a poorly tuned or running motor.
2-Installing this unit with a factor R/R will void warranty.
A good set of PRINTED installation instructions wouldn't have hurt either with each unit and the above items in large print..
The final product not encased in epoxy would have been nice, but I understand the "repair" aspect... but wires not having some mechanical attachement other than solder joints was a weak point .. and entry point for moisture
Just my $.02..
I think simple things like this may have minimized Frustration of the buyer and manufacture ..
 
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