[krukster86]

This is a lil offshoot from my CB360 thread...




Hey all,

I need some help with my turn signals on my CB360. Originally I had only a rear OEM pair that came with the bike, none in front. When the bike was turned on, the rear turn signals would always be on like they were running lights. When I flipped the turn indicator switch to either direction, the selected turn signal light would turn off and the other would stay on. I waved this off as a problem with the flasher relay or because there were not enough lights/draw to cause the flasher relay to "blink" the lights.

Now I have ditched those rear OEM lights for this little set up I created, along with an identical set up in front. :

I figure that with the increased number of lights, the flasher relay would activate and "blink" the lights. However, now BOTH the front and rear turn signals lights act like running lights (maybe I wired them wrong), which doesn't really bother me too much, but they still do not flash! I even replaced the flasher relay with 2 different ones I picked up at AutoZone with the same result. Once again the turn signal light from the indicated direction turns off, but now this applies to both the front and rear set! I have no idea what to do next, since I HATE electrical issues.

BTW the turn signals in question that act like running lights are EMGO Mark II Mini Stem signals. They have 3 wires: Red, Black, Black with White Stripe. The way I wired both the front and rear are as such:
Black w/ White: To the respective colored wire (e.g. Orange or Blue)
Black: To Ground (Green)
Red: attached to nothing

 

[Bird76Mojo]

What's the voltage reading directly from the battery?

P.S. That rubber gasket you made looks really good! Nice work!

GB :mrgreen:

 

[dlslick]

Almost every time I have a turn signal problem it is a bad ground.

 

[66Sprint]

Mark... The turn signal wiring is fairly simple..... A black wire (hot when key is on) goes to the flasher.... A grey wire comes from the flasher to the directional switch..... Depending on which way you activate it, the current then travels through either the orange or baby blue wire to both turn signals on (whatever side)....The ground completes the connection back to the battery..... IF you want running lamps, let me know, I'll discribe how to wire that scenario..... Steve

 

[jayel]

if they stay on until you flip the switch you have them cross wired or the switch wiring is wrong

 

[Bird76Mojo]

if they stay on until you flip the switch you have them cross wired or the switch wiring is wrong

That EXACT thought just occured to me. I had to log back in to say something.. Beat me to it

GB :mrgreen:

 

[krukster86]

Ok thanks for the advice everyone, I have a suspicion that the wiring in the switch is wrong. Why I never bothered to investigate that is puzzling

 

[krukster86]

So here is something from another forum that might toss in a little twist. Is anyone familiar with Dual element bulbs?
This is from the website that I got the lights from:

"The Mini II indicators are made from die-cast aluminum and are available in either polished or chrome plated. Dual-element bulb (found at most auto parts stores) with 3-wire 15" leads (+12VDC High Beam, +12VDC Low Beam & Ground). These indicators can be used as running lights by splicing the low beam leads into the headlight circuit."

So I think that the way I have my bike wired up is simply for running lights ONLY, and changing the wiring will solve the problem...right?

 

[jayel]

the bulb is a dual filiment just like the tail/stop light, you have three wire one is ground one is a low wattage filiment (dimmer light)used as the running lamp the third wire is a higher wattage filiment (brighter light) used as the turn signal the low wattage wires should be wired in with the headlight/instrument lights, the higher wattage filiments wired as turn signals but if the light goes out when you click the turn switch on your switch is wired wrong

 

[krukster86]

Heh in a way this is good. It gives me more to do while waiting for spray painting temperatures to come back

 

[krukster86]

I was poking around the wiring (everything but the switch) and there definetly seems to be something amiss here. I got some pretty funky results where it seems like the wires for the turn signals were color coded for the brakelight and vice versa(and the flasher relay works aparently) that indicate some errors in wiring. I am going to wait for a free weekend to unplug some of the wiring and start from scratch. Its a bit frustrating, but I don't mind having an excuse to spend more time in the garage.

 

[krukster86]

Problem solved! I will go into details in the main thread :mrgreen: