[krukster86]

I didn't know exactly where to put this sucker so here goes:

This might just be a passing whim, but has anyone had experience with EMGO Univeral fit exhaust? I am looking at these in particular:
http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_c ... Id=&mmyId=

They are inexpensive (sold individually), but are they "cheap"? Will they discolor fast? Will they rust on a sunny day?

 

[tbpmusic]

Well, they are inexpensive, but they look pretty good.
And if they fall apart in a couple years, you're not out much.

The ones in your link are the Dunstall replicas - I don't think they work on a 450, the exhaust pipes are too big in diameter (1-3/4").
But I used them on Wifey's CB200
Good looks, good sound.

I did not get them at Dennis Kirk, I got them at CRC2 in Indianapolis - http://www.crc2onlinecatalog.com/Index_Main_Frame.htm

On my last 450 I used the RoadHawk variation, again from CRC2 - they fit the 1-3/4" pipes, and are quieter than the Dunstalls.

I think for the money, it's hard to go wrong. I put a lot of time and effort into both those bikes, and did not want dented, un-shiny mufflers on them. And re-chroming costs were out of the question for my budget.

As with most aftermarket mufflers, it takes a little work to stop leaks around the exhaust pipe/muffler joint, and you might have to tweak the centerstand a bit, as they gon't have the "cutout" for the stand that stockers have.
On the other hand, they did bolt right up in both cases - no messing with the mounts at all.

So you decide what's best for you.....

 

[krukster86]

Thanks for the advice. I am liking these EMGO pipes more and more, I just wish the dunstalls were about 7 inches shorter. I guess I can deal with that when I am ready to order a pair (or check out the 17-inch "Reverse Cone Muffler"). The headers on my 360 (I think they may be custom made) are 1 1/2" in diameter so I am pretty good with most of what is on the market. I know what you mean by tweaking the centerstand. I did not pay much attention at the time, but the pipes installed by the previous owner always came into contact with the centerstand when it was flipped up. I think that I am going to end up losing the centerstand once I install whatever pipes I decide on back on the bike .

 

[tbpmusic]

That part of the centerstand is easily heated and bent slightly, so as to avoid contacting the muffler.
I think CRC2 has some shorter Emgos in there - 17" reverse cones.

 

[krukster86]

Yeah I just spotted it. Plus it has a repackable baffle in case it gets too loud...interesting

 

[tbpmusic]

CRC2 is good people to work with - I order lotsa stuff from them.

 

[krukster86]

Thanks for your input. I will do a bit of measuring and playing around with MS Paint (poor man's photoshop :lol this week/weekend before I make my decision. I am definetly going to shop at CRC2 when that time comes. Price may be a tad higher, but shipping is way cheaper!

 

[jayel]

here is what those 27" Emgo's look like on a 450 I got mine from J.C. Whitney, had to cut the inlets (4 cross pattern) deeper to spread the inlet dia. to fit the header pipe, used a piece of electrical conduit that I bent the end in to make a swelling punch then shimmed (beer can) the joint to seal the slots

 

[krukster86]

That pic will help out a lot! They seemed to be insanely long without being mounted on a bike for reference.

 

[dlslick]

I like those mufflers on the 450. My stock mufflers arent bad but they have a few "issues". They are probably the worst cosmetic thing on the bike. Someone also drilled out the baffles. I remember when I thought that was a great idea. AND when I used to do the same thing to every bike I bougth. I may look into those mufflers for my bike.
Don

 

[jayel]

these can be a bit loud, they come packed with regular housing type fiber insulation (think pink panther) blows right out, if you go to a dirt bike shop and get real rock wool (mica) insulation for packing mufflers it lasts longer and the tighter you pack it the longer it lasts

 

[tbpmusic]

I like those mufflers on the 450. My stock mufflers arent bad but they have a few "issues". They are probably the worst cosmetic thing on the bike. Someone also drilled out the baffles. I remember when I thought that was a great idea. AND when I used to do the same thing to every bike I bougth. I may look into those mufflers for my bike.
Don

Once again, the Emgo Dunstalls are not designed for 1-3/4" pipes - it will take some modification to make them fit, like Jayel pointed out.

They do have a good look, but they are a tad loud, quite a bit louder than stock I thought. The RoadHawks are a lot more quiet, yet still a bit louder than stock.
Wifey's CB200 is louder with the Dunstalls than the 450 is with the RoadHawks.

 

[krukster86]

OK its settled I bought the dunstall replicas on crc2. I triple checked my headers and they are indeed 1-1/2". The shorties are a bit more sporty, but they are too short and fat. The Dunstalls appeared to be too long, but upon a closer look, they were just right. I just hope they are as loud as people say, the straight DIY exhaust my PO did woke the dead! :lol:

 

[krukster86]

So I got a newbish question here. In my other thread I mentioned that I will have to drill into the chrome exhaust support brackets to mount the pipes on my bike (the holes in the bracket are 1-2 sizes too small for the mounting bolt I have to use). Do I have to worry about the chrome part rusting in a matter of days afterwards?

 

[Bird76Mojo]

It could happen.. You could just paint the inside of those holes, or use a small amount of grease when assembling.

I could send you some strips of 7ga T6 6061 aluminum if you give me the dimensions you need? Then you drill the holes where you want, and polish...

GB :mrgreen:

 

[tbpmusic]

OK its settled I bought the dunstall replicas on crc2. I triple checked my headers and they are indeed 1-1/2". The shorties are a bit more sporty, but they are too short and fat. The Dunstalls appeared to be too long, but upon a closer look, they were just right. I just hope they are as loud as people say, the straight DIY exhaust my PO did woke the dead! :lol:

Those Emgo Dunstalls look about perfect - many folks wouldn't even know they're not stock.
And they're not "cheap" - inexpensive, but not cheap, there's a difference.
They'll be somewhat louder than stock, but not enough to get you in any trouble, I think.

If you end up with leaks at the joints, check out my 450 project log to get the name of the fireproof "fabric" I use to take care of that.

 

[CurbTiger]

I put some Universal Reverse Cone Megaphone Mufflers on my 450 from Mikes XS (http://www.mikesxs.net/products-44.html#products).
I did have to fab some adapters so they would point up and out just a bit. 15 degrees, maybe. And so I wouldn't have to use the "size adapters" supplied.
They sound way better, IMO, than the Dunstall types that were on there. My buddy Will kept calling the Dunstalls "potato guns" to shame me into new pipes. Thanks, Will. Admittedly, they do set off car alarms :mrgreen: and I would recommend ear plugs on longer rides. But, man they sound sweet. Nice throaty burble at idle and a good crackle on the over run.
Nate in PDX
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[Bird76Mojo]

What's that seat strap thingy Nate?

I'm liking those drag bars


GB :mrgreen:

 

[CurbTiger]

It's a harness to hold bicycle panniers(saddle bags). Look closely and you will see at the top a fitting with two horizontal slots. This corresponds to the brackets on the back of the pannier. The brass grommet down towards the footpeg is for the hook at the end of a elastic strap. If I pack right, it's good for a light camping trip. Yeh, not so stylish in sense of a cafe racer, but very practical. I'll take a pic with the bags on to illustrate a little better. And to show off a bit. One of my better mods for the bike.
Nate in PDX

 

[Bird76Mojo]

WOW! Talk about quick reply! Thanks. Another couple questions for ya's. I see you flipped the caliper. How'd that work out for you. Feel, brake, or handle different? Also, what are those headlight ears?

Sorry for the 20 questions, but that bike has some unique stuff that I just have'nt seen before.

GB :mrgreen: