[Snowman]

On the old msn site there was a guy in Tacoma WA that knew of a place that had to profiles to grind 450 cams.
I need to get this done as I have ruined one of my cams and the follower.
If anyone can remember who this was or if it you can you let me know?
Mike

 

[Bird76Mojo]

I believe Megacycle still offers cams for the 450's. I don't know about associated costs but they may be comparable? If they don't then Todd Henning or Team Hansen will have a slightly more agressive cam available.

Could be an option for you, or you could keep your eyes peeled for an Ebay cam, and followers turn up on there from time to time..

GB :mrgreen:

 

[gpdesign]

On the old msn site there was a guy in Tacoma WA that knew of a place that had to profiles to grind 450 cams.
I need to get this done as I have ruined one of my cams and the follower.
If anyone can remember who this was or if it you can you let me know?
Mike

The place in Tacoma is:

Delta Camshaft
1938 Tacoma Ave. S.
Tacoma, WA 98402

phone 253-383-4152

 

[Snowman]

Thanks for the help, I'm sending a set of cams and followers off to Delta Cams today.

I rebuilt the cylinders but never did anything with the cams, and they were pretty bad, I totally wiped out the first set, then I put in another set from a parts motor that I was given, one of the lobes didn't look good on them either but I went ahead anyway it ate up the follower also.....so off to Delta cams they go.

This should be the last thing I have to do to have a good running bike, I have been working on the bike for the last year or so, The MSN board was invaluable to me during this build and I am so glad to have found you guy over here.

FYI
They will refresh one stick for $45, if welding is need it will cost more.
They will weld and regrind followers for $8 each.
I will let you know how they come out.
Mike

 

[Bird76Mojo]

Have you checked that the top end is oiling properly?

GB :mrgreen:

 

[Snowman]

I know that when its idling its oiling because I took the exhausts cam cover off and it was spitting oil out of the cams, I wish there was a way to see how it was doing when it got hot and I was doing 60 down the hwy.

I did cut off the tach oilier shaft last time I had it out.

I think it was bad cams to start, the first set I smoked was the original set that was in the bike when the bike was given to me.
It had both cylinders frozen in it, I had to drive them out and have it bored, then put new over sized pistons in, but I didn't do any thing to the head except lightly lap in the valves, the cams had what I hoped was just surface rust and would clean up. well it didn't and it ate up the first set, a friend gave me another motor that he had been sitting out in the weather for parts if I needed, I took the cams and followers out of that one and put them in this one, and one of the cams didn't look too good either, but being the optimist that I am I put them in and gave it a go, well, the one that didn't look to good, ate its follower, and that is where I'm at.
I have been working for the last year getting out all the usual bugs that I have been reading about on the board...wouldn't go over 60. not charging, floats wrong, dirty carbs, dirty gas tank, seems like all the normal stuff for bringing one of these things back from the dead. been having fun doing it....most of the time, without the help of the board I don't think it would be possible, so thanks to all those that help
Mike

 

[Bird76Mojo]

most of the time, without the help of the board I don't think it would be possible, so thanks to all those that help
Mike

You're telling me....

GB :mrgreen:

 

[tbpmusic]

I wish there was a way to see how it was doing when it got hot and I was doing 60 down the hwy.

No way to do it when you're in motion.

But at idle, loosen the right front head bolt (one with the copper washer) a bit.
You should see oil at that point if everything is working.......

Or loosen the big "cover bolt" (`9mm wrench) at the back of the tach drive - oil should come out there too.

 

[Snowman]

Well this is turning into quite a mess.
I sent the cams and followers to Delta cams in Tacoma WA (they are not far from me) they ground the cams and welded the followers and reground them.
When I got them back I started assembling them, and things weren't going together as easy as they should have, but I continued along any way, finally, I got them in but there was no space between the cam and the followers,(cams ran the whole way round) so I called Delta Cams, and asked did they follow a profile when they ground the followers, they said yes, and that they had even added a little extra thickness for me. I told them this was not good because now I had no clearance, they said told me to send them back and they would fix them without charge, so I did. well I got them back and put them in and noticed that the cams where rubbing only on the very extreme edge of the cam, so I took them out AGAIN, to a look at them and found that all four of them are ground so crooked it hard to beleive that I didn't see it before I put them in.
have to call them on Monday and see if I can get this messed straightened out.
This is getting old.
I am going to try and attach a pitcher of one of the followers.

Mike

 

[Snowman]

Ohh and this is what the surface looks like....Is this acceptably, it seems realy rough and I'm worried about the cam getting worn out.
Mike

 

[66Sprint]

The surfaces should be square, smooth and so polished they look like chrome.... You should NOT be able to see or feel grind markings..... THOSE are NOT acceptable....

 

[Snowman]

And the saga continues.
Well I talked to the one of the main guys, he said he would get them right personally, so I sent them back and they redid the followers again and they came back looking good, so I put them in the bike this evening and Damm if two of them are to thin and I can't get them to tighten up. I don't think they can get them right.

Is there any one who knows of a place in the states, that can weld and regrind my follower?

There is a vintage bike show going off this weekend here in town and I was hoping to put the bike in it just for fun, that will not happen now.

Hope I can ride it before winter sets in.

Mike

 

[Snowman]

Well I got the cams back and they looked good this time, all smooth and level, so I put them in the bike and dam if they were not ground down to the point that I couldn't get them to adjust up enough to close the gap.
So without removing the followers from the bike I loaded it up and off to Tacoma (about and hour from here), I took some of the drawings from the manual that I got from 66 sprint and took them with me, I met Steve and showed him the drawing and the light came, we went to the truck and I showed him what was going on, I took the two follower that were too thin out and he took them in and added a touch to the part that rides on the valve, pollished them up and I put them back in the motor and they worked great.
I have been riding around town and have about 85 miles on it and things are looking good.
Steve is a really nice guy and felt bad for all the trouble that I went through, he was determined to get it right, and in the end that is what really counts for me.
Mike

 

[zx12ryder]

interesting subject....i will do an inspection of mine to make sure things are good. Terry has been hinting to me about putting some cams in my bike. Will toss the idea around over winter.
What was the indication that they had failed.....it just wouldnt run due to having no lift?

 

[Snowman]

I would take it for a long shake down ride and it would start making tons of noise and wouldn't run right, I would get it home, pull off the valve covers and every thing would be loose as hell, then I would take it apart and the followers would be dished out really bad.
Took it for another long ride yesterday, the cams and followers are holding up fine, but the throttle cable broke :x I knew it would sooner or later as the end had a little fraying of the cable, new one will be here Wednesday.

Mike