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I was told this is an OEM kickstand. It doesn't jive with the pics I've googled. My kickstand off the bike has been butchered by someone so I can't even use it as a reference.


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It does look OEM but no telling what bike it came off of.
 

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This is the CB175 side stand that I've recently bought from a breaker in the UK. I hope it is the correct part.

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One of the problems with these side stands is the bracket which attaches them to the frame. I've seen three of these now, all of which were bent and / or cracked at the welds. Fortunately, I've been able to find new old stock replacements for both my 175s.

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On my latest 175, the K4, a previous owner has crudely welded the remains of this bracket directly to the frame, then attached this weird kick stand. I hope to grind the welds off and replace it with the correct bracket, when I have the bike stripped down for the frame to be painted or powder coated.

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As received, note the dented and rotted out silencer.

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I feel your pain. Mine was very similarly "repaired". I use that word loosely.
I believe my OEM stand is your first image. I just can't find one. :(
 

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Simo is correct, I have a cb k3 model,and that is the correct stand, but I don't bother with it as mine has been previously welded and looks a bit sus to me.Also on my new DS mufflers the rubber stopper thingy is in the wrong place and the stand just bashes the muffler.

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A few more pictures.

My CL175K7, when I first got it.

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I fitted DS pattern pipes, as part of my conversion to CB spec. The stand hit the pipes, as Grazman has found, so I added a piece which both acts as a stop, and gives me something to press on to deploy the side stand. Just drilled and tapped an M6 thread, used an M6 screw covered in a bit of fuel hose. Hasn't caused me any ground clearance issues, but then I don't often get my elbow down :eek:

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I have now reverted to CL pipes for a while, which shows off the mounting bracket more clearly.

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? Interesting aside. The rear passenger footpeg on the CL has an extended bracket, so that passenger leg will clear the pipes. I have a CB one to fit with the other pipes. CL footbar and rear brake pedal are also different, higher ground clearance / tucked in more, so CB pipes not a direct fit without matching footbar and brake pedal. CB200 brake pedal works well.
 

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That's interesting Richard,my CB does not have that bracket you mention, but just has a flat piece welded onto the frame with the hook for the spring on the back.The cmnsl parts fiche shows a bracket so I suppose a previous owner must have altered mine.
Following up on my previous thread,the centre stand also hits the pipes on my new DS pipes as the stopper is in the wrong place. I have fixed that by fitting a piece of garden hose over the end of the stand. i'll continue my whinge by also mentioning that I cannot use the kick starter any more as there is no cutout on the pipe,luckily the electric starter works ok. I realise that they are not OEM, but its a little disappointing that the manufacturers could not have made things a little more accurate.

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That SUCKS. I know they were not cheap either. This is important info as I was spying the DS replacements as well. $179 US each and the fitment is off? If that's the case, I'll remove the stop brackets and TIG them in the correct spot. If I have to do that, can I send DS an invoice?
 

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I-Ride-A-ホンダ;999304 said:
I'm looking for part #13 but CMSNL doesn't even list a part number.... I've seen a couple different side stands on my year bike thus far. I'm confused
The '69-'70 K3/K4s used the sidestand in your first post, which is also the same stand pictured in the CMSNL schematic. For '71, Honda switched to the "new style" stand that Richard attached pictures of earlier. The '71 K5 and up models all used that style of stand. I'm assuming they just used the same schematic for all the years of the 175 because it wasn't worth changing the shape of the sidestand in th picture. both stands are interchangeable as you probably could've guessed, just not "correct" for every year. I hope that is of some help. If I can find part numbers for either stand I will post them here.
 

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The '69-'70 K3/K4s used the sidestand in your first post, which is also the same stand pictured in the CMSNL schematic. For '71, Honda switched to the "new style" stand that Richard attached pictures of earlier. The '71 K5 and up models all used that style of stand. I'm assuming they just used the same schematic for all the years of the 175 because it wasn't worth changing the shape of the sidestand in th picture. both stands are interchangeable as you probably could've guessed, just not "correct" for every year. I hope that is of some help. If I can find part numbers for either stand I will post them here.
I'm about to give up on finding the correct side stand. I can't even find a part number
 

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Not sure if this will help. I got this side stand off eBay. The bracket part is definitely correct, not sure about the actual stand. Don't really care because it works!

As you can see the length from the pivot point to where the bottom contacts the floor is about 9.5" (241mm).

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I actually bought two side stands that were sold as being from a CB175 but they were different in shape and length. I went with the longer one and it fits under my pipes and lets the bike sit at a good angle. Here's the one I didn't use. I did not try it but I think it would let the bike lean too much for my comfort. It's in pretty rough shape but the bracket part is correct. If you are interested in it let me know. I have a NOS spring that should work with it...

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Here's what came off my bike. Frankenstand. I'm not even sure it's the correct part. At this point, I've come to the realization that it's not an concourse restoration so I think I'm gonna have to be happy with what I get. Thank you for the offer and I may take you up on it.



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I had an idea today. I work at a fab shop. I may be able to have the machine shop we have on site mill a foot to duplicate OE on our HAAS CNC mill. All the rest of the stand is super easy to fab after taking some measurements I think. I can even have the spring mounting tab lasered out and then I'll weld it on with some .030 hard wire in an attempt to exactly duplicate the small MIG fillet welds on the OE stand. When one door closes....
 
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