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Its time too start the project log!

Below is a picture of the $100 barn find mentioned in my Introduction post. The bike was about 70 miles away from where I lived and that was convenient. I purchased the motorcycle 11 Sept, 2014, and completed the following process in one day.

In Kansas the bike qualifies as an "Antique", and since no title was available a form TR-11 is required; This is used in lieu of a Bill of Sale. Be sure NOT to include the dash (-) inbetween the model and VIN number on the VIN "data plate". The hard "stamped number in the frame neck" is whats used in Kansas, and it does not have the dash in it. This can be completed on line then printed out on your printer, or just print out a blank and take it with you, for completion by the seller and buyer.

TR-11 location:
http://www.ksrevenue.org/pdf/tr11.pdf#xml=http://search.ksrevenue.org/texis/search/pdfhi.txt?query=MVE-1&pr=KSRevenue&prox=page&rorder=500&rprox=500&rdfreq=500&rwfreq=500&rlead=500&rdepth=0&sufs=0&order=r&cq=&id=5590fdeb15

With the CB175 loaded onto my truck with the completed form TR-11, the next stop was to the Kansas State Highway Patrol (KSHP) vehicle inspection office in Wichita, Kansas. This inspection would determine what I will do with this motorcycle. The inspection office verifies odometer reading, and the "stamped" frame V.I.N., and information the previous owner (PO) and myself provided on a form TR-11. The KSHP then takes the V.I.N. and runs it through their happy computers; it had no liens, but had swagg... history showed it was stolen in 1988 and recovered the next day after the reported theft. The KSHP then completed the MVE-1 form, and gave me the appropriate pink copy.

Next stop was to my insurance folks and paid a $21.65 fee for a years worth of liability insurance. Insurance is required to register the bike in addition to the completed MVE-1 and TR-11. Now off to the Kansas Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) office, to title, register and obtain Antique license plates. There is an initial fee of around $40, then pay a yearly county only tax fee... its $11.00 and due every Dec.. (just paid mine). There are no yearly stickers added to the license plate as you would normally do with a non antique vehicle.

The bike now has a clean Title, registered and has antique license plates. I can now safely put some money into restoration process instead of building an old fashion yeee haaww off-road machine.

In Kansas, an out of state purchase without a title, "might or might not be possible". The Kansas Department of Revenue web site indicates that a TR-11 "may" suffice in the case for an Antique Vehicle. Check with the DMV concerning this as it applies to Antique Vehicles ONLY.

Other states may vary significantly from what is required in Kansas, so best to check the requirements of your local area before pulling the trigger on purchasing a vehicle with only a bill of sale.

I thought it important to add this process for folks in Kansas that may be at a loss on what to do when there is no title for motorcycles over 35 yrs old. If I were to have done one thing differently, it would have been to obtain the V.I.N. first and have the KSHP verify any issues before purchasing ($20 fee). For Kansan's you can find this information at this link: Kansas Department of Revenue - Frequently Asked Questions About Titles and Registrations



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Mileage when I pick er up was/still is 8,095.3 miles. It has "almost" matching VIN's (Engine, Stamped Frame, and Data Plate). The last two numbers of the engine VIN are reversed from the frame and data plate S'N's. Oh whelp... Did you know the headlight basket/case can be installed upside down? More entertainment to follow in a day or so :)

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Hi Dudepants ! This is a slow combination restoration, modification and modernization project. Since its the first one of I have ever attempted, its a slow process for me.. lots of reading/research, so I will probably be in the wings for awhile... lots of parts on the way, but so far to go haha. My fuel tank was no where nice as yours, the top was faded all the way through to the silver base, and mice lived in the tank as it had no cap.

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Looks like a great project! Curious to see what you do with it. Good luck.
CB2NR, your restoration is one of my inspirations, and clarified what I thought was an "oh darn, panic". Your photo of your lower case bottom, matched what I was observing with mine as it appears the die casting of the part leaves what initially looked like cracks extending from some of the internally threaded bolts.. thus the initial oh darn moment :)

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Thanks for the inspiration guys ! I am at a good stopping point (my brain hurts) and I will be going over photos over the next couple days and start updating this project report. Its been an interesting experience so far, with high/low moments, but were going to proceed on and make this little guy ride again!

bcolladay, good read on your Kansas DMV etc experience haha. :) I had the same concerns as you when I took er down to the Inspection station. You have a nice looking ride and there is another member here with two CL350's (in Wichita). I was always partial to the '69 CL350 in Daytona Orange. Something about that black box on the exhaust on that model makes me smile.

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If your new to this, (like me) here's a few projects I use for reference information, whether for restoration, racing, performance, mods etc... This is not all inclusive but just examples of what can be found using "search" :)

CB2NR - Full Restoration
http://www.hondatwins.net/forums/1-project-logs/17231-1971-cb175-k5-restoration.html

Triumphsuper3 - Racing/Performance/Mods/Upgrades etc
Father Son 75 CB200T Rise From the Ruins and http://www.hondatwins.net/forums/1-project-logs/30430-zeke-s-cb175-victoria.html

Simo - CL175 Rebuild
http://www.hondatwins.net/forums/1-project-logs/18520-cl175-dropped-beach-rebuild-now-running-200cc.html



Here's some more pictures that show the Craiglist pictures and the arrival at the house.

My175intruck.jpg org3.jpg org1.jpg
 

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Some tear down and preliminary inspection pictures.... I will try and not repeat pictures that are well explained from other Project reports... One picture shows the bike upside down, I found it much easier to work on the engine area this way, especially when I needed to use a penny to lock up the gearing.
 

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The oil drain plug was determined to be on for life. I used a 3/4 in drive, 3ft long breaker bar, and a 4 ft pipe over the end of the breaker bar... total length was about 4ft. I had previously used a pretty heaving hitting air wrench/hammer no avail... I had the bike laying on its side, and applied the breaker bar forces to it... with much sharp pressure a loud "crack - pop" sound occured, with a spatter of metal looking dust hitting the ground... oh oh.. thought I either cracked the socket, ripped the bolt out of the boss mount, or even worse ripped the boss mount from the case, it felt as that much force was used/required.

The dust that fell that was from inside that 4 ft extension I added to the breaker bar *whew*. The drain plug was now loose.. took it out and nothing unusual was found laying in the plug. Keep in mind the bike was on its side.... just noting this now, as we did have a surprise just waiting to be found.. more on this later in the Project Log.
 

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The left engine side case came off real easy, where as the right side was difficult.. I think I saved only 3 attach fittings from that side... I was pleasantly surprised of the condition of the mechanical workings under the covers, with one "oh my" lurking in there that might not be obvious in these photos. But if you look at the magneto-rotor real close around the starter fingers/tabs, you will see two of them are cracked.

Both tabs of the oil filter cover were broken off, which is typical as that's what the shop manual says to use to remove cover. In reality it takes a 8mm x 1.25 pitch bolt to do this after removing the 6mmm screw inside the filter. I was expecting this damage from previously reading this forum... no surprises ... pays to read the forum! :)
 

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When I had the bike upside down, I was planning to use my pressure washer with engine gunk to get the messy stuff off the engine... the up-loader valve on the pressure washer was hiccuping, and right on Q, decided to fail to a much lower pressure setting... what! its only 22 yrs old ! Oh whelp, continued on with less than high pressure available, and I noticed GUNK ain't like it used to be in the old days.. kinda weak IMHO today... In this picture, a close up of the lower case is shown... this was real true scare for me... recalling that big crack sound I heard when I got the oil drain plug to release, and aluminum looking dust hitting the ground, what I was looking at left my wide eyes open, jaw dropped mode.. it appeared that cracks were emitting from the lower case bolt holders and the drain plug itself.

A frantic search on the restoration link I listed earlier (CB2NR's restoration) had what I was looking for... there are pictures of this same area showing the exact same faults... they could be twins.. Turns out its just manufacturing casting impressions, me thinks :)
 

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I'll add more photo's of what was have found over the next couple days as I am spending the rest of today organizing my files.. I probably should not have waited so long to present what I have run into as I'm going to cover about a 2-3 month period of time... more unusual preliminary and detailed inspection findings forthcoming !

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Those just look like cast flaws on the lower case
but is this a crack
Yes, agree on casting flaws in the lower case, but it did give me a scare (newbie fright haha)

And yes, two of the fingers were cracked, about ready to fall off.. I was just taking pic's of the dis-assembly process a couple months ago and at this point in time didn't even notice ... until I found one was missing... the actual high res photo was taken to where the entire motorcycle was captured at that angle... using "crop" features, I zoomed into that area of the picture looking for the missing tab, but it was probably on the bottom as my side and rear angle did not spot it. I use cropping high res pictures for looking over areas of the bike more closely for things I may have missed visually. More on the missing tab/finger will be shown later in the Project log.

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One of the first things I was going to do after getting the bike home was to remove the spark plugs and spray "Corrosion X" into the cylinders.. this would pre-soak the head and top of the pistons.. Engine tear down activity was planned for April 2015.. that plan would be changed. Removing the LF spark plug was normal, however the RT spark plug came out with the inevitable crunch crunch feel of being cross threaded.. eased it on out, and yup.. it was cross threaded on the top end threads with the lower threads intact. I used a thread chaser to clean it out.. I didn't care if material fell into the cylinders as the engine was going to be torn down. I put the plugs back in loose. This will be repaired using "Timesert".

NOTE:This is not going to be a blow by blow pictorial presentation, as those are well covered in the links I posted above, rather just some of the things that might help folks, that were not covered.

Thread chaser used...M12 x 1.25
 

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Here is the right carburetor as installed on the motorcycle, and a closer view on the bench. Interesting way to have the fuel bowl attached. Surprisingly, the internals were pretty clean.
 

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