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    I'm guessing most of the Nigerian Princes out there looking for a bike are on Craigslist... but I have gotten a couple of going-nowhere "interests" in my V65, which is currently on Cycle Trader for the second time in a month or so. so few trustworthy people left... good to see progress on your CL77
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    CL77 has landed

    You‘ve said you’re going to paint the frame. Any decisions made about the colour yet
    Glad you’ve made progress and have spark!
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    I sold the CL350 yesterday to a pretty young lady who is going to make it her first street bike. I won't have to exist on a diet of potted meat and crackers to continue on the CL77. I am on the fence about the frame color currently. Black is original and so much simpler in this case since I am doing all of the paint in house, but red keeps calling. I hoping to try and kick the bike over in the next week or two. Carb kits are on order, the internals were really are not the worst I have ever seen. The oil slinger had a fair amount of crud, probably the first cleaning. I am sorting out a cracked oil pump drain hole, but the screen was really clean. Damn I hope the engine is good......

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    CL77 has landed

    Quote Originally Posted by britman View Post
    ... Black is original and so much simpler in this case since I am doing all of the paint in house, but red keeps calling......
    Why making it simple when you can make it difficult? A look at pictures from your previous 77 could perhaps answer that question. It looked absolutely awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrisianWheel View Post
    Why making it simple when you can make it difficult? A look at pictures from your previous 77 could perhaps answer that question. It looked absolutely awesome!
    I am trying to remember what color I used on that frame, I know it was from True Value and rattle can. I have everything working light wise, after I finally figured out the position of the switches. Still looking for a tail light and front fender that doesn't require a kidney and third mortgage on the house.

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    Not a great day today. Got everything set up for an initial kick over except for the right carb kits which should be here by Monday. Battery installed, valves adjusted, timing set, upon looking closely at the shifter, damned if someone hasn't brazed the thing to the shaft. I would imagine it got gauled out as they have a tendency to do, but talk about overkill on the fix...... They is no way to pull the side cover currently without chiseling the the weld loose. It is not leaking and the clutch feels fairly decent so for the time being I am placing this on hold until I do some research and see how the bike actually runs. As Lloyd Bridges said in Airplane, "I picked a fine time to quit drinking"......

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    Know the welded on shift lever oh to good. PITA.. This last one the whole shift rod had to be replaced. Nice job on the progress so far.
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    Pardon me sticking my beak in here, but they probably did it because a) they were lazy/tight/whatever and b) it doesn't prevent sidecover removal. If the kicker is brazed to the mount outside of the cover, the only problem you're going to encounter is separating the kickstart pedal from the cover.

    As I'm finding with my '77, Honda made some interesting (read expensive) design choices and one of those was to have a completely dry right side to the engine. So under the cover, there's a couple of components like the kickstart return spring and the clutch actuator mechanism. What that also meant was they could keep the exposed end of the shaft the kickstart mounts to (can never remember whether its the main- or counter-) very short. I made the same mistake and thought the shaft would extend to the outside of the whole assembly - as it does on later engines - but it doesn't; it stops inside the right cover.

    What I think you're looking at is a sub-spindle (if that's the right term for it) that the kickstart pedal is mounted to. That sub-spindle then mounts to the main spindle behind the cover - it's the same splined slip-on type joint that was used later in the kickstarters themselves. Maybe these will help . . .


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    In order to braze the kickstart mechanism to the spindle, you'd need to do it with the cover off . . .

    . . . and a quick word of warning if you're thinking of delving into the engine at any point. The camshaft is like nothing you've ever seen before, and the guides to how to get it out are woeful. Whatever you do, do not try to drift the right hand end out by sticking something into the open centre. Trust me on this - it's a very bad idea that gets very expensive very fast. I may start a project thread on my CL rebuild and if I do, I'll explain more with pictures . . .
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    I don't think he was talking about the kickstart being welded, but the shifter. I've run into that also, and had to replace the shaft. At least that can be done without too much work on the 305 motor, but you still have to get that shifter off first. Definitely plan on replacing the oil seal, since it will definitely get buggered up in the process.
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    Oh knickers. You're quite right. My bad.

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