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    Type 1 or type 11 ?

    I don't think it matters too much but I was just wondering about my 1980 CM400E. According to the on line PDF Manual there's a Type 1 and a Type 11. Not much difference from what I can see other than some of the Specs. The Manual says a Type 1 weighs 351 pounds and it has no Tach.......just Idiot Lights. Type 11 weight 370 pounds and it has a Tachometer. Well......my Title says mine weighs 370 pounds with no Tach. Does it make that much of a difference ?

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    On a Type I engine, the pistons rise and fall opposite to each other, and on a Type II engine the pistons rise and fall together. The Type I engines were usually found in the more sporty bikes and the Type II engines were used in the more pedestrian commuter bikes. Many times, the Type I engine had twin carbs and the Type II engine had a single carb, but that wasn't always the case. I don't know if that's what the manual is referring to in your case, but it's fairly typical Honda nomenclature back in the day.
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    I have 2 Carbs. I have the weight of a Type 11, 370 pounds, and I have no Tach, like the Type 1. Lol.

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    I'm pretty sure all the SOHC 400/450 engines are "type II", but in this case it might mean something else with the 400 series, maybe not... LDR would know (I know I don't, and the ID Guide doesn't mention it either)
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    I don't think it means much. Just wondering !

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyweb View Post
    I don't think it matters too much but I was just wondering about my 1980 CM400E. According to the on line PDF Manual there's a Type 1 and a Type 11. Not much difference from what I can see other than some of the Specs. The Manual says a Type 1 weighs 351 pounds and it has no Tach.......just Idiot Lights. Type 11 weight 370 pounds and it has a Tachometer. Well......my Title says mine weighs 370 pounds with no Tach. Does it make that much of a difference ?
    Ill bet you are confusing a Tl and Tll model designation with the Type 1 and Type 2 engine configuration... They DO NOT refer to the same thing.......
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    You're probably right. Type 1 or type 11 ?-untitledtype.jpgI just saw this in the manual but didn't check the numbers.

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    Do you have spoke wheels or Comstars?
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    Spokes. I'd like the others if they fit !

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyweb View Post
    Spokes. I'd like the others if they fit !
    The rear wheels would probably swap.
    Not the front wheels, as the T2 has a disc brake and different forks/fender. You could swap an entire front end though.
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