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    Quote Originally Posted by tbpmusic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jjdugen View Post
    ...... oh, and the inevitable carb diaphram splittages. .....

    ??? - on a 450??
    yeah, I wondered about that too... maybe he just assumes the 450 carbs are just like the 350. handles like a drunken pig...? vibrates? last time I checked, Brit bikes thrashed as much as any Japanese machine (well, except Norton after they went isolastic). He should tell us how he really feels
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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientdad View Post
    yeah, I wondered about that too... maybe he just assumes the 450 carbs are just like the 350. handles like a drunken pig...? vibrates? last time I checked, Brit bikes thrashed as much as any Japanese machine (well, except Norton after they went isolastic). He should tell us how he really feels
    Another expert who's never even seen a 450 carb........I think I might ask someone else to work on my 450.
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    a christmas mircale! holy heck. nice. Twins gurus weigh in. this is in fact, a legit Red dragon? How many world wide exist? Someone reach out to rayfromtheuk
    I recall he had insight on these. Bill lane; school us some more.

    I withdraw my silly request for pics. good on you! enjoy. better hang on to it....

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    J, you must working mobile... rayfromtheuk already weighed in about 9 posts earlier!
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    darn it. yup, typing on this device messes with me. sorry.

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    No worries - but it's just another reason I use a computer to visit... you get to see everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by jseconds77 View Post
    a christmas mircale! holy heck. nice. Twins gurus weigh in. this is in fact, a legit Red dragon? How many world wide exist? Someone reach out to rayfromtheuk
    I recall he had insight on these. Bill lane; school us some more.

    I withdraw my silly request for pics. good on you! enjoy. better hang on to it....
    I've never actually seen a Red Dragon, only heard about them, so I'm the wrong guy to ask.
    I think they're very uncommon in the US, maybe more common as Euro/Export/Domestic.
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    Red Dragon: My son and I are in the process of cleaning it up and we had to decide what approach to take. We are going to get it running-may have to get new coils and condenser and make it all functional. Not a full restoration. The wiring has been repaired and all the lights and horn work. No turn signals. The request for the paint color for the red and the silver was to do touch-ups. The intent is to preserve it as found with a few corrections for some "chopping" in the 70's. We have all the correct tin-fenders, side covers and front fork covers, the bolts-screws were replaced with stainless in the 70's so we are looking for Honda type fasteners. thanks for the help-Jim

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    Hi all. Just checked in to the forum, Christmas gets in the way of everything.
    Anyway. Yes the 450 came with, probably, the first diaphram carbs on a production bike. Never saw anything like it until the CB250/350's came out. These early ones were notorious for splitting the diaphram, mine lasted a few thousand miles and took the dealer over a month to get replacements.
    I do think that the example I bought was a Friday afternoon build, or that the dealers mechanics had no real idea how to set it up in the first place. But, vibes aside, it did handle badly, maybe the weight, certainly the tyres, although I did change them after my first trip down the road on my backside. I had come from a Ducati Mach1 and then my CB250 (The best, most reliable motorcycle I have ever owned), so maybe not a fair comparison.
    Just my 2 pennorth (or cents if you prefer). It was no faster than the CB250 in any real meaning, far more complex, (expensive), not my favourite Honda by a long shot.

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