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    Junior Member intercepter's Avatar
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    Cam Chain Question

    has anyone installed a clip type (OEM Honda) master link onto a DID 219 endless chain? Before I cut a link out and try to do this I'd like to see if anyone else has had success.

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    I had an endless chain the PO bought for my cb160 basket case (I found that you can't use one because it's a non removable sprocket), I tried that and the honda link wouldn't go into the replacement chain link

    Also I just pressed one link out with a chain tool btw, no need to cut it.
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    There appears to be at least two different Honda cam chains with clip links.

    On my first rebuild, I bought a new 219 cam chain, hoping to reuse the clip link from the original cam chain, but I found that it wouldn't fit, pins on clip link too 'fat' to go into 219 chain.

    I've recently bought an OEM cam chain with clip link, and that clip link DOES fit the 219 cam chain, which has been sitting in my parts box.

    As well as the clip links, there are two different types of alternative links. One type has a press on side plate, the other type has to be riveted.

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    I've tried it once, fitting a cb175 clip link from a k3 to a split cb200 endless chain. It didn't fit the pins were too big just like Richards experience. I fixed it buy pushing an ordinary link apart and using that as the master and staked it in pins in place for
    Last edited by Simo; 04-21-2019 at 01:17 AM.

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    Just checking part numbers, and the chain that I've just bought, with the clip link that does fit my 219 chain has the part number 14410-235-003.

    Which is odd, because according to CMNSL this is the part that has been used throughout the upright 175 range, same as the chainlink that didn't fit.

    EDIT I'm planning on doing a top end rebuild on the motor in question in the next week or two, will compare the two clip links then.
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    Thanks All, I've ordered a new master Link and a bicycle rivet tool that should do the trick. I hope to get this done next weekend.

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    I've just stripped down the top end of my first 175 engine and removed the cam chain with clip link. This engine had never been apart before I got it, so this would be the original Honda cam chain, the one with the 'fat' link that won't fit the other cam chain. This was in a CL175 K7 engine, so fairly late in the series.

    Comparing this with the OEM Honda cam chain and clip link that I recently purchased, two clip links are visually similar. However, measuring with digital calipers shows that pins in the original (K7) chain are 3.14mm in diameter, whereas the OEM chain and an aftermarket DID 219 chain both have pins measuring 2.98mm in diameter.

    As the difference is so small, there is a danger that the 2.98mm clip link could be fitted in error to the 3.14mm chain.

    I'm going to go ahead and fit the new chain, although there appears to be little evidence of wear in the original one.
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